camo-Turkish barricades against Greeks Albanians and Turkey
Rakipi
camo-Turkish barricades against the Greeks
In April 1897 the Greek bands Ethnike Hetaeria (10) attacked the Muslim populations of Epirus and the mass killings began attacking the Ottoman army. This organization began to armed Albanian and Greek Christians secretly and took her under the tutelage of the organization of the uprising taking into account the fact that it also controlled the powerful Greek domestic policy. Muslim Albanians were the majority and this rarely helped the enemy against the Ottoman army during this war perbashket.Sulltani Albanians declared that in this war fighting for two powerful objective are: the protection of Islam and the Albanian territories (History of Albania p. 240). Thimi Mitko wrote in those years: Albania and Turkey is against the Greeks and only a part of Christians have their heart with Greece (Ibid). Albanian-Turkish Cooperation Greece made to cede these territories by making it run away with tail honor saddle .. Albanian troops were led by the great son of Cham Abedin Dino.
But Cham also had not forgotten some captains Cham participation in the 1821 Greek revolution against Ottoman Jaho and Demi from Filati Sali Gumenices Cami from the suburbs of the Greek and betrayal that made them. Persuaded Kollokotroni some Cham leaders to join at that time the Greek forces to about this they were invited in Peloponnesus to sign a secret alliance of Greek-Albanian. The Albanian delegation was led by Tahir Abbas and 1500 Muslim Albanian troops should join the Greeks led by Prronjo and Capari. On our way Tahir Abbas, abhorred by the burning of villages, destruction of mosques and masjids, as well as abuse of Albanian Muslims, renounced continuing travel to the Peloponnese and returned to Golden. There he was made known beys Cham and other Albanian leaders of Lower Albania, violent actions of the rebels had taken Greek to Muslim families and Muslim religious cults institutions. This ghastly news was enough to Albanian leaders to give away up alliances with the Greek uprising to join Hrushit Pasha who was the commander of the Ottoman army at the time, (K. Son, "Arvanites oi tou neotorou elenizmou dories, Athens, 1961. , f.346). Battle
Ajdonatit (Chameria) 6-20 January 1913
Greeks in the west of Ioannina in the area of \u200b\u200bAjdonatit Ottoman troops began the attack on December 25 we forcing them to be forced into a heroic resistance, given that the Ottomans had in that area only one cannon and two machine guns of the old. But in December 26 çetave liberation troops Albania entered the attack by helping the Greeks against the Ottoman troops. Çetave Albanian troops were composed of çamesh and labesh Greeks and caused heavy losses until the latter retreated and retreated for several days. But within a few days armed Greeks and Orthodox villages of the area organized and operating bands andarteve night and surprise. These days many Muslim men were killed in the area and villages Filat Ajdonatit who resist against invading Greek troops. But the situation was aggravated even more when you came reinforcements Greeks from Corfu and they resumed in December 31 attack on Turkish troops Cham. But the most difficult battle that lasted 16 hours was that of 6 January, where a handful of men Cham and Turkey braved the heroic powerful attacks of the Greeks. In that battle the Greeks were broken but they resumed the attack on 12 January and continued it in 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 January where the body fights the body severely did the Greeks leave the land with hundreds killed Cham. On 18 January Turks and Cam together undertook heroic counterattack repulsed that the Greeks and 19 January a boat camo-Turkish Ottoman helped shore bombing Greek pozocionet which gave opportunity Cham and Turkish troops to continue the attack on the Greeks. But the bodies of poor, mosperforcimet troops with troops on Jan. 20 made the camo-Turkish troops in assisting with ammunition and food from the government of Vlora kapitullojne and leaving the area attract the Greek troops who retaliation began massacres against Muslim men in the villages. (Milli newspaper and Yanya muharebesi)
siege and heroic RESISTANCE Ioannina
1913 First Battle of Ioannina began in December 13, 1912 where the bodies independent of Esat Pasha had formed a defensive perimeter outside Ioannina castle. The Greek army of Epirus and reinforced by the 2nd Division of pedestrians and other waiting reinforcements attacked the Turkish-Albanian troops of Ioannina. In December 12 the Greek commander of the Army of Epirus gave orders to his troops not to interrupt until the attacks took Bijanit castle that was one of the defensive castles out of Ioannina, which is the fall in the hands of the Greeks seriously jeopardize the city and castle of Ioannina . Greeks used the newly arrived 2nd division to obtain Manullases hill that was in the southwest of the castle that Bijanit. At the same time the Greeks held andarte irregular bands that attacked the village of Lyzeçit the other side of town. These gangs they named Detachment A and then formed Detachment B But full battalions of the Albanian perplore income Permeti, Vlora and Mallakastra so heroic army held the line of independent Turkish-Albanian. Also garnizohet the 19th, 21st, and 23te garrison of Ioannina as well as very helpful in pushing the Greek troops. On December 14 at 8 o'clock in the morning attack Greek troops resumed attacking the garrison who held the Manullases hill. But the determination of Colonel Hysni Bey and Pasha's troops Xhavit derrmuan Greek troops pushing them many miles out of Ioannina. In December 18, 1912 Esat Pasha (commander and hero of Ioannina) launched a general attack with his troops against the Greek troops by attacking with the 1st division and 2nd Greek troops from the east and the temporary division of Vlora west. They won the artillery positions, but strong and numerous Greek reinforcements made that same day at 6 in the evening to rigjenden Esati troops in positions they had before the attack. From 1150 Division troops that had only 400 remain Vlora. But the fortress artillery that destroyed Gastrices Greek positions Esati again giving the opportunity to risulmoje thing he did in the December 20 morning with the division of 19 but without result. Lost their lives in this attack Esati 250 soldiers and 300 were injured. Esat Pasha in December 22 to not be given an opportunity to attack the Greeks attacked them again but this time with success by pushing them several miles and you take substantial amounts of ammunition. This will be the last to attack the Albanian-Turkish troops to Esat Pasha will make for 1912. In the December 24 attack Greek troops crossed in general progressing and taking positions that they had lost on 15 December. But again, the Greeks forced the Ottoman artillery to attract causing them to win the second battle of Ioannina. During the beginning of January greken collected a large number of troops across Greece by adding their numbers to the final siege of Ioannina. Greeks brought the bodies of Meçoves regiment, division the 1st Infantry, the Greek army in Epirus, and the 8th division. Greek artillery was reinforced many being made ready for final assault against Ioannina. While we Janine missing and there was enough food for all meals, although the Albanian villages around Ioannina CTE they could send soldiers to continue fighting. Especially corn bread was not spared from the patricians to feed Cham Cham and Turkish warriors who fought heroically with the troops of Prince Constantine. Even the government of Vlora that Kamal Ismail sent several times Esat Pashes.Sulmet food and ammunition and sustained numerous Greek heroes did that resistance of months fighting hunger, cold winter and Greeks began to break. A part of the Greek division attacked from the north Dishes of Ioannina on March 6, 1913 while the rest of the area Çukes killing thousands of troops whose Esat Pasha had finished ammunition. Troops to attack the side Rrapshtices still causing profound loss of Esat Pasha troops. The battle and siege of Ioannina lasted until March of 1913 where bodies camo-Turkish kapitulluan having no ammunition and food to continue the protection of Ioannina and being forced to retire to the north toward southern Albania Permet and followed by Greek troops. This is one of the heroic struggles of our people, together with Greek Turkish people against barbarism which began after the fall of Ioannina massive massacres against the Albanian Muslim villages. Esat Pasha was born in Ioannina by a Turkish father and a mother Albanian and even though he knew that from Istanbul did not come assembled troops or reinforcements by Turkish troops and Albanian Muslim and bravery and sacrifice of time defended Janina and other Greek territories .. Janine Xhavit We saw that it was the right arm Esati night before crying tears fell martyr husband and said Esat Pasha "dead or alive Janina did not leave to andarteve." The next day he martyrs in the soil worm that he loved so much and giving spirit for a free andarte Janine Greek. _____________________________
1. Balkan Harbinde ve Esat Yanya Savunmasý Path, Genelia Kurmay Askeri Tarih ve Stratejik Etüd Baþkanlýðý, Kultur ve Turizm Bakanlýðý Yayýnlarý.
2. Balkan Wars, Aram Andonyan.
3. Balkan Wars, Richard C. Hall, Homer publishing house.
4. Balkani 1912-1913, Süleyman Kocabaþ, Vatan Yayýnlarý.
5. Muslim Albanian national efforts for independence (1978-1912), Peter Bartl,
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Albanians and Turkey Ottoman heritage in Albanian society, as in all other Balkan countries is numerous and omniprezente: in religion, in the national language, the means of subsistence, in the rules of conduct in domestic life, etc..
Monday, May 12, 2008 12:36
By: Abed Rakipi Brussels
its meaning is ambivalent. For the Ottoman heritage is linked to the nation, takes part in national history, is part of the Albanian, and taken in hand by the nationalist discourse, its perception presents a clear dualism of national facts: the same reality used to affirm a fact and its opposite. In this way, as in many other Balkan states the Ottoman heritage minimized and denied by the nationalists and their books. Ottoman period appears as a dark period which precedonte National Revival. It appears as a period of repression and obscurantism that is responsible for the backwardness of Balkan states in comparison with the rest of Europe. This is clearly expressed and taught in school books and historical writings. In most books and public speeches Islamization of Albanians called accident and disaster that Albanians do not have to forget that they are by their nature Christian. In archives and books of the Ottoman Empire, the opposite occurs, where the Albanians is attributed to a glorious place and talk about them more praise and admiration. A book published in Tirana in 1997 that provides for example a list of 35 Vezirs (Prime Ministers) in the empire from the 15th century until 1922. Sometimes Albanians insist on the similarity of the Albanian and Turkish language and say that 50 percent of the Albanian language is Turkish and Albanian words can follow without problem television programs in Turkish. Many words have a Turkish etymology though some of them originate Greek. Turkey
Albanians recall with nostalgia that they occupy a special place in the Ottoman Empire and its administration especially thanks to their loyalty to the empire and their abilities which is admired and respected by the Turks. Albanians in Turkey show a history that has made partikularitetin the two aspects, positive and Ottoman heritage: An Albanian complains a Turk than 5 centuries of Ottoman Empire had left the country vulnerable to a blizzard. As Turk says? Why qaheni you? During five centuries the majority of ministers of education were Albanian, then you battle them all. Ask yourself and account now. Meet when needed should be taken into account the Turkish-Muslim assimilation operates in our days in some areas of the country. Both words are taken for each other and association with a religious community is often understood as ethnic identity. Greek-Orthodox Assimilation functions in the same manner. In some rural areas vetparaqiten Albanian Muslims as Turks, although I do know the difference better understanding nderrmjet etnonimit religious and national. This fact-confusion used by Christians to at least put in doubt whether their affiliation to the nation, maximum doubt their loyalty to the Albanian nation. Radical Christians use this fact in our days through the media as public accusation, putting them Albanian Muslims dock to make them feel fajesore who have accepted Islam.
They represent Albanian Muslim or Turkish backwardness in the Balkans or the modern Muslim who no connection with other Muslim countries and has an Albanian Muslim, making it almost secular or Islamic nuances poor. Both groups split in divisive ideologies serve want to share the Albanian Muslims while factions removed them from each other and especially from other Muslims be they Turkish or Balkan. On the other hand Christianity is presented as the religion of their ancestors and national pride by using the slogan that every Albanian in its interior has a Christian worldview. Using figures of national heroes Christian emphasis on the establishment of an ideology to future generations paralelizimin consisting of the nation and its heroes with Christianity and Christians. This ideology is developed from a century and has its roots in the Albanian national renaissance with people like Vincenzo Dorset, Constantine Kristoforidhi, etc.. But if the rebirth Albanian Albanian Muslims were very close to Islam and had a clear vision of the traps of fanatics and agents of the church, working until the last moments of the Turkish Empire, in our day and they are just too naive to sophisticated traps , strengthened and modernized the Christian fanatics. For more should be added the fact that after the wars and massacres of Albanian Muslim population pameshirme from Christian countries neighboring wild communism and atheism destroyed any hope the organization Enverian komunitativ and diplomatic Albanian Muslims by leaving them out of Islam as it is far east from west. But the final and lethal shock are given nowadays Albanian Muslims from Christian-secular circles by paralelizuar them with anti-Albanian and Turkish backwardness in the Balkans. This platform started immediately after the influx of church associations in Albania after 1990. These associations, which with the help of the secret services of the church knew that Albanian Muslims after qafirizimit Enveriane dictatorship and communist atheism wild, do you find them without any religious knowledge and spiritual side lost. Lack of knowledge and automatically inkultimi of ignorance and atheism in the Muslim mind make them easy prey for Christian missionaries. But also by economic Albanian Muslims were crushed and it was exactly this point the weak and delicate that missionaries is best used by Muslims bought the poor souls for a piece of bread given that the latter had children and families to feed. The only important element of the Christian missionaries had disrupted economic aid to Muslim countries to send the Muslims after the accession of Albania into the Islamic Conference countries. In this way, parallel with the economic aspect of foreign agjenturat Church began the establishment of a media industry that will be used as a major psychological weapon for the removal of Muslim Albanians from historical truths that even to this day is hidden and minimized our people. Manipulation and deformation The historical facts of the Slavic-communist ideology led many generations to perceive Islam as a religion occupiers who oppress the Albanian people of paralelizuar it with tyranny and backwardness. Having assimilated the religion Islam conqueror they imply that Islam is imposing something foreign and Albanian in the world is not part of the Albanian identity. So I used theses occupancy as a core that discusses and develops a hatred of Islam and the gradual removal of Albanian Muslims from Islam and Christianity closer Attempt retranslation are recognized. After the coup and civil war orchestrated by the Greek church and agjentura grekofilet shqipfoles in our lands of 1997 Muslims were expelled in extent by the state administration and you put a lid their development opportunities in Albanian arena. The murder of Azem Hajdari, Abdi Baletes eliminate from the political scene after threats from the armed grekofileve Band and many other factors that made the church the opportunity given to share freely. Year 2000 and 2001 and the twin towers attacks accelerated and facilitated the work of the church by Albanian Muslims cut any economic assistance from other Islamic countries on charges of financing international terrorozmit. Faced with this misery a small part of the Albanian Muslims were forced to feed their children become spiritual slaves ecclesiastical manipulation and change religion. But although the majority asimiloi some anti-Islamic attitudes did not change the religion but secularism for partially accepted to survive in a society where the Taliban and rimonte Muslim and Christian poverty with wealth, modernity and development. Retranslation are recognized platform ideology of Albanians continued and even intensified in the Muslim territories of Kosovo by the Vatican and church agjenturat after Kosovo's independence and gave the contribution that western countries in recognition of this independence. The main slogan was Europe and America liberated us (ie Christians) and among those is our future, so should Europeanizohemi modernizohemi and (of course, to abandon Islamic custom to adopt Christian ones). True
Nato (to which is part of Turkey) delivered Albanians from Serbian slavery but on condition that they become vassals of Americans and Europeana. The same thing happened before 500 years ago when Sultan delivered us from bondage Serbo-Bulgarian-Greek-Raguziane Venediko (five yoke dhejo a) as requested by us are doing now Europeana and Americans are in Kosovo to its ally. The same scenario the various actors. Although public authorities and American Europeana rikonvertim the Albanians do not want to Christianity under the mat they encourage it by funding and developing anti-Islamic ideology that will lead to generations of Albanian youth in Kosovo to grow and are educated with a deep hatred against Islam, which will automatically make them Christian. If Sultan imposed Albanian Christians 500 years before the economic tax nowadays Albanian Muslims after their impoverishment if you imposed Here only the economic but also ideological and tax mentality. Taking into account the fact that these taxes pagohen only then we dont rikonvertim choice but it remains that the first 500 years of anti-Muslim Albanian n forced to accept Islam, but this time the opposite is happening and is shown the other side of the coin. Then the two sultans which to choose that first 500 years that gave us the hand the keys to Istanbul or this the young man who gave us Kosovo making us in his vassal in the Balkans and returned to us Christians. What Murat, who assumed Kosovo Serbs before 500 years to give it in hand tja Albanian pashas or have rescued the young man who has made it now and ecclesiastical and secular Albanian? Why the first is treated as invaders and konvetues to violence and the second as a liberator and hero? If both lead to the same end which is nderrmjet their differences? The honest answer every Albanian could find at the end of his heart and mind.
Salutatory Address(elementery)
Cham issue is a matter-Albanian Muslims comeback with ARTUR NURON
Cham issue is matter-Albanian Muslims
comeback with ARTUR NURON
(who while working at PDI (the party of the Chams) quotes the writings of Janullatistit grekofil
Aurel Plasari)
Rakipi
Abedin Says I Dear Mr. Nura,
We rarely see tju I do know that this mail erroneously received
Khan because he was directed only
these other people but not you, and it was error
My shtova that your mail list of those people that has Cova
.
We rarely work second to Dojakes
maybe you know better work and to comment sdua
longer for this, but Dojaka and PDI where do you part you do
big mistake when attacked Turkey, which strongly supports
Cham issue. You say you did not that thing
to attack Turkey but was tactical momentum, ama
moment you forget that you did what were the years with peak
where many countries had raised the issue of
called Armenian genocide and Turkey in those
moments was attacked from all sides of this issue
especially from its traditional enemies among which
and Greece. So this tactic was for me is the PDI
infiltrated by people with dubious intentions
is one of the fatal errors that
Cameria association could have done by inserting knife back
Turkey has been, is, and will be the ally of the
auqishme the Chams. Then when Turkey we have years and decades
gives us support and especially options that the Albanian diplomatic
SNA has never offered
and which are vital for the Cham issue we put back
knife. So my humble opinion this is not a tactic but a
nonsense because it is equally as good
to fall to kick. I conclude this point by stressing that tactical
or not she
statement was presented as fact and diplomatic reaction, and came despite that replacement
Turkish being perceived as a gesture against Turkey
was transmitted by the media, to the point that Turks said
ALLAH ALLAH we protect and those
insult us. Come now to persuade people that it was tactical or reaction
diplomatik.Kjo shows once
pamatueshmerine of some individuals who are members of the PDI
who with their acts not only to help
Cham issue by removing what has
No. 1 ally but it eventually sank into oblivion. Third
this debate initiative was debate within or between them
Cham people who are and need to be continued in the first
between them ama think that a non-Cham
your job as Mr. Nura not know our jobs well. You can be a member of
PDI but it makes you not with the knowledge and full information
Cham issue, and we have except
Cham browsing thousands of pages and skulptojme
every row in every book that might mention our
issue, have the information
practice genocide because grandparents, uncles, cousins \u200b\u200b
with their mouth and tears have shown us the massacres
practices committed by Greeks. Therefore, having
a complete information and evidence that are live
our grandparents are appropriate for people with
and conclusions appear in public statements on the issue
Cham. And you understand when you think the issue is a matter
Albanian Cham and non-Muslim and also explain why
tju. We Cham listening with our ears
events indicated by the grandparents,
fathers, our relatives or reach a conclusion
iminent and make yourself the question: Do
dance that Muslims were massacred us? Question arises why this
Mr. Nura? And why exactly we
Chams and other non-Albanians to you? Three answers to three questions
: The first arises from the fact that no Albanian Orthodox
was not killed or not they instead moved
was supported by the Hellenic government while in Cham
besides the fact that from 1912 to 1945 returned to targeted
conversions with knives and violence. The second subpoint
first response is the fact that Greek called Cham
with all so as to become orthodox by
using all tricks and lure them. Subpoint
third of the first response is the fact that the Greeks when they saw that Cam
Orthodox sbeheshin the best of sampled
unwillingly putting them before the knives and
behuniortodokse saying if you want to stay here than you would otherwise
kill him and started to do it. Came
the front knives and massacres
refused to become Orthodox and Greek and all
ckishin sacrificed and took the road to Turkey and Albania. This
shows once again how loved Islam and
shqiptarine Cham.
The second question arises from this evidence and stories
massacres by the events of our ancestors. How can this question
not born when thousands of elderly Greeks Came say that the said
Become kaurre
if you want to stay here, or suallen us the village priest to baptize
us with violence, or we gathered in mosques and
us say, will burn you alive you Muslim rats;
or raping girls saying that children will be born will be
and Greek Orthodox, or why
Greeks in every village that we first entered the village
Hoxha sacrifice and family of his thousands and thousands of
evidence that we left our martyrs. This evidence
Mr. Nura and tears and pain of our elders do
that this question bore us automatically put us in
a great dilemma for the reply. But the fact that only Muslims were slaughtered
and no
arvanitas gives us the right answer and no need for comments.
Third, and crucial in understanding the concept of
Cham issue is that other Albanians without
their ears heard the testimony of elders and not feel closely
anxiety that had stories of elders
could not ever reach the conclusion that's our
were massacred Cham Muslim and Albanian
at first because you do not have the information transmitted to us in
elders and those rare second
little evidence that are published are misshapen and does not contain the same mezash
and the same zest for
when our elders die q era thing happens day after day
those horrendous stories about you except archives become
and historical facts that witness and we
Ham still alive in our souls. I understand you that you do not
reach the same conclusion with us making
Cham issue that is only multidimensional
Albanian issue because in the absence of accurate information and lively
we had you skeni
other solutions and you Utopia seems the fact that we protect Cham
else, even this view is that the Chams were expelled
were Muslims-Albanians. In the fact that we were
masakruam that Muslim do not deny ever even if the communists in Albania
say to deny us, we do not
mistake that we did in 1946 when
neck with party party and then gave us the knife behind the neck.
our identity as identity can not be that communist
Kadare will Albanians have. We are Albanian and Muslim
until the end. While you Mr.
Nura you saying that Islam is a tragedy for our people
(Islam, politically, a big fatal mischance for
Albanians)
to the link below:
Cham And we think that Islam was he who made us and Albanian Cham
because if we were kaurre today will
Arvanites were Greek. I personally think that
Cham opinion is not represented by individual
PDI or associations and I wonder how you want the Cham issue when we post your
vllahun mention inappropriate place
Aurel Plasari which is known for his grekofiline
mad, for his antimyslimanizmin is man's sworn
Janullatosit. Here's something that is wrong:
or you have not read anyone else besides aurel
crack that writes the newspaper Janullatosit resurrection,
or you want more crack and
Janullatosin and you accidentally stumbled in Cham anti-Greek. Abedin
Rakipi Bruxelles
Cham issue is matter-Albanian Muslims
comeback with ARTUR NURON
(who while working at PDI (the party of the Chams) quotes the writings of Janullatistit grekofil
Aurel Plasari)
Rakipi
Abedin Says I Dear Mr. Nura,
We rarely see tju I do know that this mail erroneously received
Khan because he was directed only
these other people but not you, and it was error
My shtova that your mail list of those people that has Cova
.
We rarely work second to Dojakes
maybe you know better work and to comment sdua
longer for this, but Dojaka and PDI where do you part you do
big mistake when attacked Turkey, which strongly supports
Cham issue. You say you did not that thing
to attack Turkey but was tactical momentum, ama
moment you forget that you did what were the years with peak
where many countries had raised the issue of
called Armenian genocide and Turkey in those
moments was attacked from all sides of this issue
especially from its traditional enemies among which
and Greece. So this tactic was for me is the PDI
infiltrated by people with dubious intentions
is one of the fatal errors that
Cameria association could have done by inserting knife back
Turkey has been, is, and will be the ally of the
auqishme the Chams. Then when Turkey we have years and decades
gives us support and especially options that the Albanian diplomatic
SNA has never offered
and which are vital for the Cham issue we put back
knife. So my humble opinion this is not a tactic but a
nonsense because it is equally as good
to fall to kick. I conclude this point by stressing that tactical
or not she
statement was presented as fact and diplomatic reaction, and came despite that replacement
Turkish being perceived as a gesture against Turkey
was transmitted by the media, to the point that Turks said
ALLAH ALLAH we protect and those
insult us. Come now to persuade people that it was tactical or reaction
diplomatik.Kjo shows once
pamatueshmerine of some individuals who are members of the PDI
who with their acts not only to help
Cham issue by removing what has
No. 1 ally but it eventually sank into oblivion. Third
this debate initiative was debate within or between them
Cham people who are and need to be continued in the first
between them ama think that a non-Cham
your job as Mr. Nura not know our jobs well. You can be a member of
PDI but it makes you not with the knowledge and full information
Cham issue, and we have except
Cham browsing thousands of pages and skulptojme
every row in every book that might mention our
issue, have the information
practice genocide because grandparents, uncles, cousins \u200b\u200b
with their mouth and tears have shown us the massacres
practices committed by Greeks. Therefore, having
a complete information and evidence that are live
our grandparents are appropriate for people with
and conclusions appear in public statements on the issue
Cham. And you understand when you think the issue is a matter
Albanian Cham and non-Muslim and also explain why
tju. We Cham listening with our ears
events indicated by the grandparents,
fathers, our relatives or reach a conclusion
iminent and make yourself the question: Do
dance that Muslims were massacred us? Question arises why this
Mr. Nura? And why exactly we
Chams and other non-Albanians to you? Three answers to three questions
: The first arises from the fact that no Albanian Orthodox
was not killed or not they instead moved
was supported by the Hellenic government while in Cham
besides the fact that from 1912 to 1945 returned to targeted
conversions with knives and violence. The second subpoint
first response is the fact that Greek called Cham
with all so as to become orthodox by
using all tricks and lure them. Subpoint
third of the first response is the fact that the Greeks when they saw that Cam
Orthodox sbeheshin the best of sampled
unwillingly putting them before the knives and
behuniortodokse saying if you want to stay here than you would otherwise
kill him and started to do it. Came
the front knives and massacres
refused to become Orthodox and Greek and all
ckishin sacrificed and took the road to Turkey and Albania. This
shows once again how loved Islam and
shqiptarine Cham.
The second question arises from this evidence and stories
massacres by the events of our ancestors. How can this question
not born when thousands of elderly Greeks Came say that the said
Become kaurre
if you want to stay here, or suallen us the village priest to baptize
us with violence, or we gathered in mosques and
us say, will burn you alive you Muslim rats;
or raping girls saying that children will be born will be
and Greek Orthodox, or why
Greeks in every village that we first entered the village
Hoxha sacrifice and family of his thousands and thousands of
evidence that we left our martyrs. This evidence
Mr. Nura and tears and pain of our elders do
that this question bore us automatically put us in
a great dilemma for the reply. But the fact that only Muslims were slaughtered
and no
arvanitas gives us the right answer and no need for comments.
Third, and crucial in understanding the concept of
Cham issue is that other Albanians without
their ears heard the testimony of elders and not feel closely
anxiety that had stories of elders
could not ever reach the conclusion that's our
were massacred Cham Muslim and Albanian
at first because you do not have the information transmitted to us in
elders and those rare second
little evidence that are published are misshapen and does not contain the same mezash
and the same zest for
when our elders die q era thing happens day after day
those horrendous stories about you except archives become
and historical facts that witness and we
Ham still alive in our souls. I understand you that you do not
reach the same conclusion with us making
Cham issue that is only multidimensional
Albanian issue because in the absence of accurate information and lively
we had you skeni
other solutions and you Utopia seems the fact that we protect Cham
else, even this view is that the Chams were expelled
were Muslims-Albanians. In the fact that we were
masakruam that Muslim do not deny ever even if the communists in Albania
say to deny us, we do not
mistake that we did in 1946 when
neck with party party and then gave us the knife behind the neck.
our identity as identity can not be that communist
Kadare will Albanians have. We are Albanian and Muslim
until the end. While you Mr.
Nura you saying that Islam is a tragedy for our people
(Islam, politically, a big fatal mischance for
Albanians)
to the link below:
Cham And we think that Islam was he who made us and Albanian Cham
because if we were kaurre today will
Arvanites were Greek. I personally think that
Cham opinion is not represented by individual
PDI or associations and I wonder how you want the Cham issue when we post your
vllahun mention inappropriate place
Aurel Plasari which is known for his grekofiline
mad, for his antimyslimanizmin is man's sworn
Janullatosit. Here's something that is wrong:
or you have not read anyone else besides aurel
crack that writes the newspaper Janullatosit resurrection,
or you want more crack and
Janullatosin and you accidentally stumbled in Cham anti-Greek. Abedin
Rakipi Bruxelles
Jibjab Hack Free Member
CYCLE KOLLOSA Cham
CYCLE KOLLOSA Cham
Martyr Says: Ibrahim D. Hoxha in superb book (Encyclopedia Albanian South)
commented: Abedin Rakipi
Hoxha Dupin (Saliko Ali Ibrahim)
Konispol was born in the 1855. I decorated with orders and other orders bravery and the Ottoman military. The only lessons we took the Konispol medresene. Although primary school pupil being very smart, given the right to exercise the Hoxha. In performing his military service in the Ottoman army won bashçavush rank (sergeant) listed in allajin (regiment) formed by çamerish-unit of an tymeni (division) Albanians in the composition of the Ottoman army, under the command of Osman Pasha gas-in years 1877-1878 took part in the course of fighting against armies mesyese Tunes Russian. Showed rare courage and the sword was given the rank mylazim-Sani (n / lieutenant). In late 1877's the Ottoman army was ngujua in PLEVNES and deliver it (the beginning of 1878-s) was also captured Hoxhe Dupi. I rithirrur under the gun with the task of taburimamit we reserve the kollorduse tymenin 3, April-May 1897 took part in military units fighting against Greek mesyese between Ioannina and Narta: Five wells, Marat, etc. Mehmet
Huhamet Alushi from Konispol, dtl. 1897, in his memories of the 1967's writes that the enemy was so hard on the Greeks, as when konispolitet the dtl. military service was called under the gun to meet the Greek army offensive during the Balkan War, as it was Dupi preacher pal and as such the pamarrshem under the gun-battle flag in hand Osman was led up to his fellow Filati. When he descended from Great Neck in Sajadhe, raised the flag there was always kept in hand and cried: "This flag will be set into Athens." These words sajadhasve shqipfoles Orthodox "are left mollome" (mortgage, pins, knife-FDI), after 4 years will be paid with his head, and only son. As is well known Balkan armies defeated the Ottoman armies Konispol hence the 11-12 March 1913 was occupied by the Greek army. From that day until the first 10-days of October 1916 he emerged from the house, because he did not want to see Greek soldiers andartet that there-as stated-had "laid the cloak." When someone said: "No you were mbllive mo effendi Bern; comes a DAB outside while shmbiç KEMET, will remain mbedhe glunjaseç going to kalbeç." He rrembimthi head back and respond aggressively loudly: "The slaughter site, they can not see a kaafir." Sometimes even the thought about the Turkish mauzerin took to hiding in order to pagjetshme and Delta and kill you to find out before or andartet Greek soldiers, are not eye on family members. "I'll have the castle dufeqin put some time to gather them and kill dushmane give it soul." During the first 10-days of October 1916 Dupi preacher to the preacher called Saliko together with his son 12 years Rexhepi, was going to his relatives in the village Lops. We Mohjille (JP site of Mount Narte between cervical Sajadhe Kandalit of the village), was appeared before the bloodthirsty Albanian Orthodox Thodho Harilla Camandoi Mursi village, with their beasts. Cane with kama preacher Dupin and his son slaughtered as a kid. (Memoirs of Alushi Mohammed Mehmet, Ahmet E. Xhemaliu, Hetem Abduli Hajj, the Alush Shaban Kyçykut). Gjakesine of the wild lemeritshme Harilla, Camandoi etc. has embedded in the verses Sadik Shkrevani:
"Kapedan Harillo dog, Greek
Ogreni sneaking out,
at Sajadhes in Mohjille,
killed Salina and beer,
had no compassion 'as pinch,
son slaughtered with a knife. "
Harilla
Indeed, Thodhua of most wild animals that comprised their lukunine Albanian villages were Christian and not greker Cham. Yes Crusaders-athino-fanarite with multiple claims Forums and Albania, by means of these lapirakeve gjakprishur have made them, as a reward to any bone that was shed, the ndersejne gjithsahere polifemizmi encourages them. Harilla, Vasil Ballemi, Jorgaq Bocari, Sotir Bocari, Thodhua, napoleon Zervas and many other names-suliote arvanito Orthodox Albanians in service in Greece at that time can be compared today with people of Himara, Dropullite, or many other villages, a national Orthodox Albanian, who even though have Albanian blood in their veins have united with the heart of the Greek and work for the destruction of Albania, and for a Megalo-Idea, led by priests as shqirterisht Janullatosi which can be compared with the Metropolitan of Paramithia Back in those days, that as today Janullatosi grekomanet leads in Albania, led all the Albanian Orthodox, by implanting them in the heart of love for Greece and Albania and the Albanians hate Muslims. Just like in those days they were faced with Cham and Islamic Albanians that left the Fatherland to the last drop of blood, and even today their main obstacles are the Albanian Muslim majority that hates Greece and its bloody policy, and that breeds a love deep and boundless love for our homeland Albania. Dupin preacher slaughter and other leaders of many Muslim Cham is a clear lesson for us today Chams and for all Albanians, was to have it clear that if Greece today has introduced the claws so deep in the heart of the state Albanian Orthodox grekomanet shqipfoles is that you eat the bread of Albania but that throw dance of Greece are made in the service of all projects grekofile, aiming first of the Albanian people to gjunjezojne economically, and to make it dependent on Greece, and then of dancing in our homes as once in the Chameria Janine as almost all men were killed Cham. Today we have young people become aware Cham mobilize and taking into account the fact that a stronger challenge than she expects us to our fathers. Pike must first destroy the dangerous ideologies that has hidden grekofile and hides much of the information about the massacres genocide, and then building our camo-Albanian ideology, pure the information and legends grekofile of people in the service of Greece as Arben Llalla etc. that information of painful historical truths that would shed tears every Albanian in the heart of the hide and replace them with tales formulated in the archives of Athens, when God himself Arben studied in Greece with the help of people who want to harm Albania. His schemes Arvanito-Suliote just want to hide the historical truth about the Cham and terrible genocide that lived in the Muslim Cham. For the trust of our grandparents were slaughtered as kids from the youth these grekofile lepirake Cham should respond strongly and to unite as a strong fist against hidden hand of Greece in Albania, grekomane sucker, and why not one day march towards Cham with our national anthem, and as he has himself rahmetliu Hoxhe Dupi "This flag to go to Athens."
CYCLE KOLLOSA Cham
Martyr Says: Ibrahim D. Hoxha in superb book (Encyclopedia Albanian South)
commented: Abedin Rakipi
Hoxha Dupin (Saliko Ali Ibrahim)
Konispol was born in the 1855. I decorated with orders and other orders bravery and the Ottoman military. The only lessons we took the Konispol medresene. Although primary school pupil being very smart, given the right to exercise the Hoxha. In performing his military service in the Ottoman army won bashçavush rank (sergeant) listed in allajin (regiment) formed by çamerish-unit of an tymeni (division) Albanians in the composition of the Ottoman army, under the command of Osman Pasha gas-in years 1877-1878 took part in the course of fighting against armies mesyese Tunes Russian. Showed rare courage and the sword was given the rank mylazim-Sani (n / lieutenant). In late 1877's the Ottoman army was ngujua in PLEVNES and deliver it (the beginning of 1878-s) was also captured Hoxhe Dupi. I rithirrur under the gun with the task of taburimamit we reserve the kollorduse tymenin 3, April-May 1897 took part in military units fighting against Greek mesyese between Ioannina and Narta: Five wells, Marat, etc. Mehmet
Huhamet Alushi from Konispol, dtl. 1897, in his memories of the 1967's writes that the enemy was so hard on the Greeks, as when konispolitet the dtl. military service was called under the gun to meet the Greek army offensive during the Balkan War, as it was Dupi preacher pal and as such the pamarrshem under the gun-battle flag in hand Osman was led up to his fellow Filati. When he descended from Great Neck in Sajadhe, raised the flag there was always kept in hand and cried: "This flag will be set into Athens." These words sajadhasve shqipfoles Orthodox "are left mollome" (mortgage, pins, knife-FDI), after 4 years will be paid with his head, and only son. As is well known Balkan armies defeated the Ottoman armies Konispol hence the 11-12 March 1913 was occupied by the Greek army. From that day until the first 10-days of October 1916 he emerged from the house, because he did not want to see Greek soldiers andartet that there-as stated-had "laid the cloak." When someone said: "No you were mbllive mo effendi Bern; comes a DAB outside while shmbiç KEMET, will remain mbedhe glunjaseç going to kalbeç." He rrembimthi head back and respond aggressively loudly: "The slaughter site, they can not see a kaafir." Sometimes even the thought about the Turkish mauzerin took to hiding in order to pagjetshme and Delta and kill you to find out before or andartet Greek soldiers, are not eye on family members. "I'll have the castle dufeqin put some time to gather them and kill dushmane give it soul." During the first 10-days of October 1916 Dupi preacher to the preacher called Saliko together with his son 12 years Rexhepi, was going to his relatives in the village Lops. We Mohjille (JP site of Mount Narte between cervical Sajadhe Kandalit of the village), was appeared before the bloodthirsty Albanian Orthodox Thodho Harilla Camandoi Mursi village, with their beasts. Cane with kama preacher Dupin and his son slaughtered as a kid. (Memoirs of Alushi Mohammed Mehmet, Ahmet E. Xhemaliu, Hetem Abduli Hajj, the Alush Shaban Kyçykut). Gjakesine of the wild lemeritshme Harilla, Camandoi etc. has embedded in the verses Sadik Shkrevani:
"Kapedan Harillo dog, Greek
Ogreni sneaking out,
at Sajadhes in Mohjille,
killed Salina and beer,
had no compassion 'as pinch,
son slaughtered with a knife. "
Harilla
Indeed, Thodhua of most wild animals that comprised their lukunine Albanian villages were Christian and not greker Cham. Yes Crusaders-athino-fanarite with multiple claims Forums and Albania, by means of these lapirakeve gjakprishur have made them, as a reward to any bone that was shed, the ndersejne gjithsahere polifemizmi encourages them. Harilla, Vasil Ballemi, Jorgaq Bocari, Sotir Bocari, Thodhua, napoleon Zervas and many other names-suliote arvanito Orthodox Albanians in service in Greece at that time can be compared today with people of Himara, Dropullite, or many other villages, a national Orthodox Albanian, who even though have Albanian blood in their veins have united with the heart of the Greek and work for the destruction of Albania, and for a Megalo-Idea, led by priests as shqirterisht Janullatosi which can be compared with the Metropolitan of Paramithia Back in those days, that as today Janullatosi grekomanet leads in Albania, led all the Albanian Orthodox, by implanting them in the heart of love for Greece and Albania and the Albanians hate Muslims. Just like in those days they were faced with Cham and Islamic Albanians that left the Fatherland to the last drop of blood, and even today their main obstacles are the Albanian Muslim majority that hates Greece and its bloody policy, and that breeds a love deep and boundless love for our homeland Albania. Dupin preacher slaughter and other leaders of many Muslim Cham is a clear lesson for us today Chams and for all Albanians, was to have it clear that if Greece today has introduced the claws so deep in the heart of the state Albanian Orthodox grekomanet shqipfoles is that you eat the bread of Albania but that throw dance of Greece are made in the service of all projects grekofile, aiming first of the Albanian people to gjunjezojne economically, and to make it dependent on Greece, and then of dancing in our homes as once in the Chameria Janine as almost all men were killed Cham. Today we have young people become aware Cham mobilize and taking into account the fact that a stronger challenge than she expects us to our fathers. Pike must first destroy the dangerous ideologies that has hidden grekofile and hides much of the information about the massacres genocide, and then building our camo-Albanian ideology, pure the information and legends grekofile of people in the service of Greece as Arben Llalla etc. that information of painful historical truths that would shed tears every Albanian in the heart of the hide and replace them with tales formulated in the archives of Athens, when God himself Arben studied in Greece with the help of people who want to harm Albania. His schemes Arvanito-Suliote just want to hide the historical truth about the Cham and terrible genocide that lived in the Muslim Cham. For the trust of our grandparents were slaughtered as kids from the youth these grekofile lepirake Cham should respond strongly and to unite as a strong fist against hidden hand of Greece in Albania, grekomane sucker, and why not one day march towards Cham with our national anthem, and as he has himself rahmetliu Hoxhe Dupi "This flag to go to Athens."
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